ADDUNDUM TO THE FALL 2002 AVP REPORT
Cave and Karst Acquisition Committee
Chairman
Candidate: Phillip Moss
What is your vision/stance for the NSS's
acquisition of cave and karst properties?
Philip: I think that the recent movement from NSS acquisition
to the NSS helping conservancies to acquire cave and karst
properties is a good one. We can assist in the purchase of many
more caves than if we hold title ourselves and we avoid national
management of local caves.
What are your thoughts on the current
criteria for acquisition?
Philip: I am content with the current criterion that for the
NSS to own caves that they must have national significance. I
think that we can use a lower standard if we are helping others
to buy caves. I think that they still need to be of local
significance.
Do you have any ideas on how to increase the
dollars in the Cave Acquisition Restricted Fund?
Philip: It currently has $15,000. I think that this properly
falls into the domain of the Fundraising Committee. However, I
think that there is little knowledge of this fund among the
membership or knowledge of how many cave entrances have been
purchased with assistance from this fund. The NSS Auction might
have some money earmarked to go into the fund. Also, there is
USFWS mitigation money for projects involving endangered species.
Should the NSS change its position from
acquisition to one of Conservation Easements and support the
conservancies in acquiring caves and just hold the in perpetuity
conservation easement?
Philip: I think that we should make some effort to ensure
that properties that the NSS helps to purchase are not sold to
inappropriate owners. However, I suspect (but don't know) that
Conservation Easements may give the NSS BOG excessive authority
that it might choose to exercise in conflict with local
conservancies. Since many conservancies are purchasing cave
entrances for access, if the NSS were to have an aggressively
conservation-minded Board, we might try to insist on restricting
access. I think that we should avoid that situation. I do believe
that a contract giving us first refusal to buy at an
independently established fair market price in the event of a
sale would secure our interests. Alternatively, perhaps we could
have an option that would give us a conservation easement only in
the case of a sale to a third party. I think that a lawyer needs
to advise us on the possibilities.
What are your thoughts on the closed/restricted caves database
and the value of this committee as it relates to acquisition?
Philip: The committee has not produced any
data; the first Chair wanted the committee to be a closed cave
list clearinghouse (which was specifically not part of the plan
for the committee). Western cavers (and others) are very
mistrustful and uncooperative. It would not hurt my feelings to
see this committee go away before it becomes the committee we
tried to avoid setting up; one that tries to disseminate specific
closed cave information.
Do you agree with the way the NSS cave
preserves are managed? What is your vision for the current cave
preserves?
Philip: As indicated in my recent motion on the BOG agenda, I
think that the only thing lacking is a formal feedback mechanism
in the form of site-specific monitoring. We need to know if our
management plans are effective. To the best of my knowledge, we
have dedicated cave managers who truly are trying to protect
NSS-owned caves while making them available to caver visitation.
Have you written a Cave Management Plan
Philip: Yes Paulter Cave, copy attached.
Land Owners Relations Committee
Michael Cicherski
I am interested in working with the private landowners. I am fully aware of the fact that from state to state, region to region, and all over the USA we find that for every landowner contact and relation that has been established, there are just as many approaches and ideas as to how to handle the relations. In other words, no set guidelines or directions have been established and published to the NSS members.
For starters, I suggest that we put together a "Best Practices" manual on how to work with private landowners. I would like to have the members of the NSS write, email or fax me with the ideas that have been most useful or productive for them. I would get this information through a request on caver list servers and a NSS News request. From the ideas it is possible that we can create a small manual, write up, or article that will be a guide to follow when establishing the initial contact and so forth and so on.
Next, we can create an NSS document, (if not already done), which cavers can give to landowners that handle objections to liabilities and other issues. We can create a draft agreement that holds the landowner harmless for personal injury. Yes, we have this here in Texas, but I do not know if other grottos have this document.
Background on me:
I have been caving since the mid-1980s. My mentor is Bill
Steele...maybe you know him, maybe not. I have caved extensively
with Mark Minton, Don Broussard, and numerous other
well-respected Texas cavers. I have caved in Montana, Texas,
Mexico and New Mexico. I was part of the Huautla project that has
been written about by Bill Stone. I am currently the project
director of a cave that has the potential of becoming the longest
cave in Texas. The landowner relations with the property owners
have been truly a complicated spider web, and from that has come
the interest in this position.
Safety and Techniques Committee
Dano McConnell (37357 RE/FE)
Plans:
The first task I have set for myself is to create a Safety
and Techniques (S&T) web page. The S&T web page would be
connected to the Safety and Techniques Link that is presently
shown on the NSS web page. There is currently no page attached to
the NSS S&T link. Without a doubt, the S&T page will have
a link to the Vertical Section. Other sections linked will be
NCRC, Cave Diving, and Cartography. This is of course not a
complete list of the proposed linked pages, but I think they will
be a good starting point. The page would contain links to other
pages in the NSS system as well as to outside sources that
contain valuable and pertinent information for the society as
relates to S&T. There would be a discussion page for S&T
issues, and independent evaluations of equipment and practices.
Also included would be an editorial page or letter section. I
will be canvassing the Sections for articles and information to
put into a clearinghouse page to be linked to the S&T page. I
envision this page to be an archive of sorts of S&T related
information. I have two web masters that have expressed a
willingness to assist in the creation of this web page. I think
that having the page up by the spring Board Meting is a workable
goal.
This is, I think, the most important thing that the S&T committee could produce at this time and would occupy 100% of my time as S&T chair for the near future.
Future projects would include S&T pamphlets for distribution to the grottoes and articles to the News.